Comments on: Trains Are for Tourists http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=1110 Dedicated to the sunset of government planning Sun, 19 May 2013 21:36:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Borealis http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=1110&cpage=1#comment-41431 Borealis Mon, 23 Mar 2009 06:12:29 +0000 http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=1110#comment-41431 Francis King summed up most of the debates on this blog: “Increased mobility means that people move further away from each other. I can’t see the point of this.”

Most debates here are about whether you agree or disagree with this statement.

]]> By: the highwayman http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=1110&cpage=1#comment-41428 the highwayman Mon, 23 Mar 2009 03:38:58 +0000 http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=1110#comment-41428 Randal O’Toole does what he does for a political agenda and nothing more.

What ever he(or Cox) writes is worthless to begin with.

]]> By: C. P. Zilliacus http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=1110&cpage=1#comment-41427 C. P. Zilliacus Mon, 23 Mar 2009 03:12:19 +0000 http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=1110#comment-41427 ws wrote:

> My comments and highwayman’s were in regards to Randal’s “trains are for tourists” assertion.
> The data that you are presenting does not give any information regarding transportation and
> tourism.

[Begin quote of my previous posts]

Share of long-distance travel – Train 0.8%

Passenger-Miles of Travel by Mode –
Transit, excluding bus 0.5%
Amtrak 0.1%

[End quote of my previous posts]

Based on the above numbers, maybe Randal should have written trains are not for most travelers?

]]> By: the highwayman http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=1110&cpage=1#comment-41424 the highwayman Mon, 23 Mar 2009 01:04:36 +0000 http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=1110#comment-41424 C. P. Zilliacus said: I’m not Randal (and I don’t play him on TV):

THWM: Then Randal might as well have told us that “Trix are for kids”.

]]> By: ws http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=1110&cpage=1#comment-41423 ws Mon, 23 Mar 2009 01:00:36 +0000 http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=1110#comment-41423 C. P. Zilliacus:

My comments and highwayman’s were in regards to Randal’s “trains are for tourists” assertion. The data that you are presenting does not give any information regarding transportation and tourism.

]]> By: C. P. Zilliacus http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=1110&cpage=1#comment-41422 C. P. Zilliacus Mon, 23 Mar 2009 00:38:40 +0000 http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=1110#comment-41422 All travel when computed as a function of passenger-miles of travel in 2002 (source here):

Air carrier 9.7%
General aviation (undefined)
Passenger car 52.8%
Light truck 33.7%
Motorcycle 0.2%
Bus 2.9%
Transit, excluding bus 0.5%
Amtrak 0.1%

]]> By: C. P. Zilliacus http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=1110&cpage=1#comment-41421 C. P. Zilliacus Mon, 23 Mar 2009 00:30:37 +0000 http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=1110#comment-41421 ws asked:

> ROT, can you substantiate your claims that “trains are for tourists”?

and

the highwayman [sic] asserted:

> He can’t, that’s just it.

I’m not Randal (and I don’t play him on TV), but here are trip data from 2001 from the Bureau of Transportation Statistics (full report here):

Personal vehicle 89.5%
Air 7.4%
Bus 2.1%
Train 0.8%
Other 0.2%

]]> By: the highwayman http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=1110&cpage=1#comment-41387 the highwayman Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:44:03 +0000 http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=1110#comment-41387 He can’t, that’s just it.

]]> By: ws http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=1110&cpage=1#comment-41355 ws Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:17:16 +0000 http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=1110#comment-41355 ROT, can you substantiate your claims that “trains are for tourists”?

]]> By: the highwayman http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=1110&cpage=1#comment-41334 the highwayman Fri, 20 Mar 2009 02:20:16 +0000 http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=1110#comment-41334 So, roads don’t make money.

I don’t get money from people who drive past my house.

Maybe you want to live in a private police state, but I don’t!

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