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		<title>By: LaHood Acts Like a Hood &#8212; Again &#187; The Antiplanner</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=2910&#038;cpage=1#comment-101573</link>
		<dc:creator>LaHood Acts Like a Hood &#8212; Again &#187; The Antiplanner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 08:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] content to just threaten any airlines that might oppose heavy subsidies to high-speed rail aimed at putting their [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] content to just threaten any airlines that might oppose heavy subsidies to high-speed rail aimed at putting their [...]</p>
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		<title>By: LaHood Favors Non-Motorized Transportation &#187; The Antiplanner</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=2910&#038;cpage=1#comment-98484</link>
		<dc:creator>LaHood Favors Non-Motorized Transportation &#187; The Antiplanner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 07:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] remarks from the BoydGroup, an aviation consulting firm that previously criticized LaHood for &#8220;advising&#8221; airlines not to oppose high-speed [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: PlanesnotTrains</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=2910&#038;cpage=1#comment-98441</link>
		<dc:creator>PlanesnotTrains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[------1.1 On March 23rd, 2010, ws said: 
I asked a clarification on the last post. In regards to subsidies, are you looking at federal subsidies, or all subsidies? Municipalities /whatever publicly owned authority always pump a lot of money into airports in addition to federal money.

That would be nice to know.----

WS.....  Airports are required to be self funded by Federal Law.  They charge rent and landing fees, they make money from concessions - any profit gets refunded to the carriers in the form of rent credits.  This is a fuction of deregulation. If rail supporters were interested in having the system at least break even, they&#039;d implement ticket taxes and facility fees to pay for it rather than empty my wallet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8212;&#8212;1.1 On March 23rd, 2010, ws said:<br />
I asked a clarification on the last post. In regards to subsidies, are you looking at federal subsidies, or all subsidies? Municipalities /whatever publicly owned authority always pump a lot of money into airports in addition to federal money.</p>
<p>That would be nice to know.&#8212;-</p>
<p>WS&#8230;..  Airports are required to be self funded by Federal Law.  They charge rent and landing fees, they make money from concessions &#8211; any profit gets refunded to the carriers in the form of rent credits.  This is a fuction of deregulation. If rail supporters were interested in having the system at least break even, they&#8217;d implement ticket taxes and facility fees to pay for it rather than empty my wallet.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=2910&#038;cpage=1#comment-98280</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;snicker&lt;/i&gt;

DS]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>snicker</i></p>
<p>DS</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=2910&#038;cpage=1#comment-98258</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 05:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dan good comeback: &quot;contentless, bs, unintellectual, weak rhetoric&quot; you say. 
You sure destroyed the reason, logic, facts &amp; examples that I have used.
Just add a few insults &amp; you will be shown as a babbling man at the end of his rope.

Great job too , on all your examples of what development was spurred &lt;b&gt;because&lt;/b&gt; of LRT.

You would make a great lawyer &amp; can surely convince a jury of anything.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan good comeback: &#8220;contentless, bs, unintellectual, weak rhetoric&#8221; you say.<br />
You sure destroyed the reason, logic, facts &amp; examples that I have used.<br />
Just add a few insults &amp; you will be shown as a babbling man at the end of his rope.</p>
<p>Great job too , on all your examples of what development was spurred <b>because</b> of LRT.</p>
<p>You would make a great lawyer &amp; can surely convince a jury of anything.</p>
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		<title>By: MJ</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=2910&#038;cpage=1#comment-98235</link>
		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 22:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So much for evidence-based public policy, we now have threat-based public policy with a bunch of old-school, horse-trading politicians running the show.

I think it&#039;s time to cut the USDOT off from the air traffic control business altogether.  If the airlines really want an improved air traffic control system, they should be pushing for &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nav_Canada&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this alternative&lt;/a&gt; instead.  LaHood has shown himself to be nothing more than a confused, angry old man who should be put out to political pasture.  I&#039;m sure there&#039;s a lucrative consulting job out there for him at Parsons Brinckerhoff.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So much for evidence-based public policy, we now have threat-based public policy with a bunch of old-school, horse-trading politicians running the show.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s time to cut the USDOT off from the air traffic control business altogether.  If the airlines really want an improved air traffic control system, they should be pushing for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nav_Canada" rel="nofollow">this alternative</a> instead.  LaHood has shown himself to be nothing more than a confused, angry old man who should be put out to political pasture.  I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s a lucrative consulting job out there for him at Parsons Brinckerhoff.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=2910&#038;cpage=1#comment-98233</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CPZ:

&lt;i&gt;Please elaborate on the above sentence. Then compare subsidies paid to scheduled commercial airlines with the taxpayer dollars poured into Amtrak.&lt;/i&gt;

HSR has the ability to cut into some airline routes, esp those under 500 miles on the NE corridor; there is precedent for this concern from Europe. 

I made no claim as to the current level of comparative subsidy, I merely drew attention to stimulus money (subsidy) going to HSR rather than, say, ATC modernization. 

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&lt;i&gt;you commonly accuse people of making crap up, without any backing &amp; without understanding the content. &lt;/i&gt;

You just upthread made sh-- up about my preferred travel modes. Without any backing &amp; having zero knowledge of my travel habits. It is easy to understand your contentless content. It is bullsh--. You made it up to have play. 

Not hard to understand your weak rhetoric at all. 

DS]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CPZ:</p>
<p><i>Please elaborate on the above sentence. Then compare subsidies paid to scheduled commercial airlines with the taxpayer dollars poured into Amtrak.</i></p>
<p>HSR has the ability to cut into some airline routes, esp those under 500 miles on the NE corridor; there is precedent for this concern from Europe. </p>
<p>I made no claim as to the current level of comparative subsidy, I merely drew attention to stimulus money (subsidy) going to HSR rather than, say, ATC modernization. </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p><i>you commonly accuse people of making crap up, without any backing &amp; without understanding the content. </i></p>
<p>You just upthread made sh&#8211; up about my preferred travel modes. Without any backing &amp; having zero knowledge of my travel habits. It is easy to understand your contentless content. It is bullsh&#8211;. You made it up to have play. </p>
<p>Not hard to understand your weak rhetoric at all. </p>
<p>DS</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=2910&#038;cpage=1#comment-98229</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 15:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dan, you commonly accuse people of making crap up, without any backing &amp; without understanding the content. You also avoid the substance in the posts.
You are often so vague, that people have to guess on what you mean, or just apply to your ideology.

What was even &quot;made up&quot; about my my comment of you preferring public transit over &amp; being &quot;against&quot; private mobility?

You continue to avoid questions about your assertions. CPZ just brought up the same question for to provide more info on gov expenses on airlines.

Most people disagree with Congressional pork such as that for the Jack Murtha airport, in Pennsylvania. Ted Stevens was awful too. It probably would be proper to tax airline tickets even more, but public transit has the largest subsidy, per passenger-mile &amp; proportional, by far. Another big dif is that &lt;4% use transit, about 90% of adults drive &amp; a majority fly, annually.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, you commonly accuse people of making crap up, without any backing &amp; without understanding the content. You also avoid the substance in the posts.<br />
You are often so vague, that people have to guess on what you mean, or just apply to your ideology.</p>
<p>What was even &#8220;made up&#8221; about my my comment of you preferring public transit over &amp; being &#8220;against&#8221; private mobility?</p>
<p>You continue to avoid questions about your assertions. CPZ just brought up the same question for to provide more info on gov expenses on airlines.</p>
<p>Most people disagree with Congressional pork such as that for the Jack Murtha airport, in Pennsylvania. Ted Stevens was awful too. It probably would be proper to tax airline tickets even more, but public transit has the largest subsidy, per passenger-mile &amp; proportional, by far. Another big dif is that &lt;4% use transit, about 90% of adults drive &amp; a majority fly, annually.</p>
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		<title>By: C. P. Zilliacus</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=2910&#038;cpage=1#comment-98228</link>
		<dc:creator>C. P. Zilliacus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Dan&lt;/i&gt; asserted:

&gt; Airlines should be concerned about HSR because it bites into 
&gt; their subsidy pie and their bailout pie.

Please elaborate on the above sentence.  

Then compare subsidies paid to scheduled commercial airlines with the taxpayer dollars poured into Amtrak.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Dan</i> asserted:</p>
<p>&gt; Airlines should be concerned about HSR because it bites into<br />
&gt; their subsidy pie and their bailout pie.</p>
<p>Please elaborate on the above sentence.  </p>
<p>Then compare subsidies paid to scheduled commercial airlines with the taxpayer dollars poured into Amtrak.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=2910&#038;cpage=1#comment-98227</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;So Dan only wants to travel by bus or rail, no car or air. &lt;/i&gt;

Thank you , Scott, for yet again making sh-- up. 

At least the usual suspects are consistent in their lack of intellectual honesty!

DS]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>So Dan only wants to travel by bus or rail, no car or air. </i></p>
<p>Thank you , Scott, for yet again making sh&#8211; up. </p>
<p>At least the usual suspects are consistent in their lack of intellectual honesty!</p>
<p>DS</p>
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