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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2012 06:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is the power of &lt;b&gt;Congress&lt;/b&gt; NOT THE FEDERAL RESERVE to COIN money and regulate the value thereof. 

Re-read with post-high school reading comprehension. Emphasis added to help you out. Here&#039;s a vocab lesson: word meanings change over time. &quot;Regulate&quot; in the century the Constitution was written meant to &quot;make regular&quot; not to fix interest rates, something Congress is not doing; it&#039;s being done by a quasi-private bank.

Guess it was an easy step to forget the limitation of the words &quot;to coin&quot; and to expand on the words &quot;to regulate.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is the power of <b>Congress</b> NOT THE FEDERAL RESERVE to COIN money and regulate the value thereof. </p>
<p>Re-read with post-high school reading comprehension. Emphasis added to help you out. Here&#8217;s a vocab lesson: word meanings change over time. &#8220;Regulate&#8221; in the century the Constitution was written meant to &#8220;make regular&#8221; not to fix interest rates, something Congress is not doing; it&#8217;s being done by a quasi-private bank.</p>
<p>Guess it was an easy step to forget the limitation of the words &#8220;to coin&#8221; and to expand on the words &#8220;to regulate.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2012 03:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is the job of the FedGov to &quot;coin money and regulate the value therof&quot;.  To regulate the value of money, one must set the market interest rate.

The people complaining about low interest rates are all your typical entitled bond holders crying in their beer about their reduced income stream of interest payments for their risk free investment.  Boo hoo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is the job of the FedGov to &#8220;coin money and regulate the value therof&#8221;.  To regulate the value of money, one must set the market interest rate.</p>
<p>The people complaining about low interest rates are all your typical entitled bond holders crying in their beer about their reduced income stream of interest payments for their risk free investment.  Boo hoo.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2012 03:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frank:

The US Treasury Bonds ARE the printing press.  Issuing bonds is how money gets made, and when a surplus is run, money is extracted from the private economy anpermanently destroyed.

China and Europe and the Arabs must buy bonds because they run a trade surplus with us.  If they want to stop buying bonds, they have to stop selling us so much stuff, or buy more stuff from us.  There is no alternative.  The dollars keep pouring in, and they have nothing better to do with them than park them in Trasuries.

China and Europe also buy bonds to get dollars to buy oil and airplanes, which are only sold in dollars.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank:</p>
<p>The US Treasury Bonds ARE the printing press.  Issuing bonds is how money gets made, and when a surplus is run, money is extracted from the private economy anpermanently destroyed.</p>
<p>China and Europe and the Arabs must buy bonds because they run a trade surplus with us.  If they want to stop buying bonds, they have to stop selling us so much stuff, or buy more stuff from us.  There is no alternative.  The dollars keep pouring in, and they have nothing better to do with them than park them in Trasuries.</p>
<p>China and Europe also buy bonds to get dollars to buy oil and airplanes, which are only sold in dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=6698&#038;cpage=1#comment-297170</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2012 02:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I think commodities are going to show good returns in the next year.&lt;/i&gt;

I think probably more than a year, but that depends upon whether Europe comes to their senses and how much risk some are willing to stomach. And depending on tariffs, trade disputes and US coming to their senses, REMs too - maybe a Moore&#039;s Law &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/2011/03/16/smaller-cheaper-faster-does-moores-law-apply-to-solar-cells/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;there&lt;/a&gt; too, if only as a hedge against CHN cornering that market. 

DS]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I think commodities are going to show good returns in the next year.</i></p>
<p>I think probably more than a year, but that depends upon whether Europe comes to their senses and how much risk some are willing to stomach. And depending on tariffs, trade disputes and US coming to their senses, REMs too &#8211; maybe a Moore&#8217;s Law <a href="http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/2011/03/16/smaller-cheaper-faster-does-moores-law-apply-to-solar-cells/" rel="nofollow">there</a> too, if only as a hedge against CHN cornering that market. </p>
<p>DS</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=6698&#038;cpage=1#comment-297165</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2012 02:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ecreativeim.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/facebook-like-icon.png&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A sound analysis&lt;/a&gt;. 

It is risky to those not of the Austrian ideology, but I think commodities are going to show good returns in the next year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.ecreativeim.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/facebook-like-icon.png" rel="nofollow">A sound analysis</a>. </p>
<p>It is risky to those not of the Austrian ideology, but I think commodities are going to show good returns in the next year.</p>
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		<title>By: LazyReader</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=6698&#038;cpage=1#comment-297153</link>
		<dc:creator>LazyReader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2012 00:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So the federal government buys a home and then sells it. My real concern is the time in between. That could be years. And what will the government do with said homes. Will they refurbish them? Finish construction on the unbuilt ones? Repair sidewalks, mow the grass, trim the trees, de-weeding, painting, paving streets or pass on the costs of time in neglect and defered maintainence to the very people, some of which were probably not suited to be homeowners? What makes them think they know how to manage property. Judging by the level the Housing department treats it&#039;s current supply of government run housing projects or the rate of which public forest land is currently turning into ashes, or the timeframe it takes to clean up a Superfund sites; I severely doubt they&#039;ll be excellent managers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the federal government buys a home and then sells it. My real concern is the time in between. That could be years. And what will the government do with said homes. Will they refurbish them? Finish construction on the unbuilt ones? Repair sidewalks, mow the grass, trim the trees, de-weeding, painting, paving streets or pass on the costs of time in neglect and defered maintainence to the very people, some of which were probably not suited to be homeowners? What makes them think they know how to manage property. Judging by the level the Housing department treats it&#8217;s current supply of government run housing projects or the rate of which public forest land is currently turning into ashes, or the timeframe it takes to clean up a Superfund sites; I severely doubt they&#8217;ll be excellent managers.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 23:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree CHN is purchasing gold. They are also purchasing land. They are simply buying stuff all over the place in order to have future resources and buffer against the future shortages. They are simply being smart about the future.

The US bonds are being bought by many folks and institutions in Yurp because their inflation and other instruments are swirling down the bowl in response to their dumb reactions to the downturn. Some of the bank jogs and bank walks went right into the US Fed. Not ss an inflation hedge, but because that&#039;s where the safety is. Hard to make good returns right now, so best not to lose.

DS]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree CHN is purchasing gold. They are also purchasing land. They are simply buying stuff all over the place in order to have future resources and buffer against the future shortages. They are simply being smart about the future.</p>
<p>The US bonds are being bought by many folks and institutions in Yurp because their inflation and other instruments are swirling down the bowl in response to their dumb reactions to the downturn. Some of the bank jogs and bank walks went right into the US Fed. Not ss an inflation hedge, but because that&#8217;s where the safety is. Hard to make good returns right now, so best not to lose.</p>
<p>DS</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy Teal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy Teal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 23:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1.  The Cornell plan would probably be an unconstitutional use of eminent domain.  

2.  Most residents would not be able to buy their homes back because they received no money from the eminent domain (as all money would go to the bank) and NOBODY would make home mortgage loans again for a generation, except for extremely bank-favorable terms, as they would fear the government would again step in and rip them off again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.  The Cornell plan would probably be an unconstitutional use of eminent domain.  </p>
<p>2.  Most residents would not be able to buy their homes back because they received no money from the eminent domain (as all money would go to the bank) and NOBODY would make home mortgage loans again for a generation, except for extremely bank-favorable terms, as they would fear the government would again step in and rip them off again.</p>
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		<title>By: lgrattan</title>
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		<dc:creator>lgrattan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Randsl,
Lowell&#039;s solution to under water homes.
1, Lender takes a deed
2. Owner gets a 2-3 year lease and owner becomes a tenant.
3. Owner/tenant gets a right to match any offer lender agrees to accept for the sale of the home in the future.

No vacant homes. No management problems for lender. No foreclosures destroying the area.

Owner/tenant hopes to again reclaim ownership at a fair price and so takes care home.   A win win solution.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randsl,<br />
Lowell&#8217;s solution to under water homes.<br />
1, Lender takes a deed<br />
2. Owner gets a 2-3 year lease and owner becomes a tenant.<br />
3. Owner/tenant gets a right to match any offer lender agrees to accept for the sale of the home in the future.</p>
<p>No vacant homes. No management problems for lender. No foreclosures destroying the area.</p>
<p>Owner/tenant hopes to again reclaim ownership at a fair price and so takes care home.   A win win solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Bonds are where everyone is going to shelter their money.&quot;

Not everybody. Individuals and central banks (including China&#039;s, which recently overtook India as the world&#039;s biggest source of gold bullion demand) have been buying gold. Look for gold and silver to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2012/07/03/ecb-meeting-on-thursday-could-ignite-gold-silver/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ignite this week&lt;/a&gt;.

US bonds are not an investment; they&#039;re losers to inflation. A five-year with a .70 yield? And safe? Several US cities have announced they&#039;re bankrupt. The fed gov ain&#039;t far behind, but as others here have pointed out, the fed can&#039;t go bankrupt because it has a printing press, so look for lots of losers in the bond market when the rest of the world wakes up to the fact that we can&#039;t repay without significant devaluation, and when interest rates go up, we won&#039;t even be able to service the debt, even with devalued dollars.

Not to say that all bonds will lose. There are some Eastern European five-year bonds yielding almost five percent, and if I had money to invest, I&#039;d be looking outside the dollar as a reserve.

And yes, China&#039;s manufacturing growth has slowed, but it&#039;s still growing. And trinkets? These are trinkets? &quot;[L]arge gas turbines, large pump storage groups, and nuclear power sets, ultra-high voltage direct-current transmission and transformer equipment, complete sets of large metallurgical, fertilizer and petro-chemical equipment, urban light rail transport equipment, and new papermaking and textile machinery. Machinery and transportation equipment have been the mainstay products of Chinese exports&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bonds are where everyone is going to shelter their money.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not everybody. Individuals and central banks (including China&#8217;s, which recently overtook India as the world&#8217;s biggest source of gold bullion demand) have been buying gold. Look for gold and silver to <a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2012/07/03/ecb-meeting-on-thursday-could-ignite-gold-silver/" rel="nofollow">ignite this week</a>.</p>
<p>US bonds are not an investment; they&#8217;re losers to inflation. A five-year with a .70 yield? And safe? Several US cities have announced they&#8217;re bankrupt. The fed gov ain&#8217;t far behind, but as others here have pointed out, the fed can&#8217;t go bankrupt because it has a printing press, so look for lots of losers in the bond market when the rest of the world wakes up to the fact that we can&#8217;t repay without significant devaluation, and when interest rates go up, we won&#8217;t even be able to service the debt, even with devalued dollars.</p>
<p>Not to say that all bonds will lose. There are some Eastern European five-year bonds yielding almost five percent, and if I had money to invest, I&#8217;d be looking outside the dollar as a reserve.</p>
<p>And yes, China&#8217;s manufacturing growth has slowed, but it&#8217;s still growing. And trinkets? These are trinkets? &#8220;[L]arge gas turbines, large pump storage groups, and nuclear power sets, ultra-high voltage direct-current transmission and transformer equipment, complete sets of large metallurgical, fertilizer and petro-chemical equipment, urban light rail transport equipment, and new papermaking and textile machinery. Machinery and transportation equipment have been the mainstay products of Chinese exports&#8221;.</p>
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