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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=6834&#038;cpage=1#comment-306799</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2012 14:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Every discussion&quot; is not evidence; it&#039;s a generality. 

Again, please show using evidence in the form of quotations that a proponent of this technology has in these comments denied that the current technology is semi-autonomous.

When speaking of &quot;being able to kick back and text or read or watch a movie,&quot; it&#039;s a reference to the POTENTIAL of this technology.

&quot;...I observed with my own two eyes and discussed with people involved.&quot;

Ah, anecdotal evidence. Do you have any documented evidence? Again, it really doesn&#039;t matter because it&#039;s an attempt to discredit 2012 technology by finding fault with 1987 technology. That is: it&#039;s a fallacy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Every discussion&#8221; is not evidence; it&#8217;s a generality. </p>
<p>Again, please show using evidence in the form of quotations that a proponent of this technology has in these comments denied that the current technology is semi-autonomous.</p>
<p>When speaking of &#8220;being able to kick back and text or read or watch a movie,&#8221; it&#8217;s a reference to the POTENTIAL of this technology.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;I observed with my own two eyes and discussed with people involved.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ah, anecdotal evidence. Do you have any documented evidence? Again, it really doesn&#8217;t matter because it&#8217;s an attempt to discredit 2012 technology by finding fault with 1987 technology. That is: it&#8217;s a fallacy.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=6834&#038;cpage=1#comment-306798</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2012 14:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;It costs $2.5 million per mile to just pave a road with asphalt!&quot;

Can&#039;t re-write history. So what you were REALLY saying, and making your reader infer, is that it costs $2.5 million per mile not &quot;just to pave&quot; but to build a road.

Word choice matters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It costs $2.5 million per mile to just pave a road with asphalt!&#8221;</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t re-write history. So what you were REALLY saying, and making your reader infer, is that it costs $2.5 million per mile not &#8220;just to pave&#8221; but to build a road.</p>
<p>Word choice matters.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=6834&#038;cpage=1#comment-306782</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2012 13:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frank:

&lt;i&gt;Please show that a proponent of this technology has in these comments denied that the current technology is semi-autonomous.&lt;/i&gt;

Every discussion and article of this technology ends up along the lines of the driver not actually having to drive, but being able to kick back and text or read or watch a movie because the car is driving itself without human intervention.  As opposed to reality, which is 1% autonomy, and 99% needing active human monitoring.

And I don&#039;t need to &quot;research&quot; something I observed with my own two eyes and discussed with people involved.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank:</p>
<p><i>Please show that a proponent of this technology has in these comments denied that the current technology is semi-autonomous.</i></p>
<p>Every discussion and article of this technology ends up along the lines of the driver not actually having to drive, but being able to kick back and text or read or watch a movie because the car is driving itself without human intervention.  As opposed to reality, which is 1% autonomy, and 99% needing active human monitoring.</p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t need to &#8220;research&#8221; something I observed with my own two eyes and discussed with people involved.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2012 13:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frank:

Pavement overlay is a 2-3&quot; milling and replacement of the top wearing surface.

To build a road full depth requires an dense compacted aggregate base and over one foot of total asphalt thickness in base coat and wearing coat.

One recent bid I received for work was $100 per sq. yard to install pavement on an already graded subase.  That is $1.75 million per mile for a 30 ft. wide roadway.  Add in aggregate and grading, and you get the price I previously noted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank:</p>
<p>Pavement overlay is a 2-3&#8243; milling and replacement of the top wearing surface.</p>
<p>To build a road full depth requires an dense compacted aggregate base and over one foot of total asphalt thickness in base coat and wearing coat.</p>
<p>One recent bid I received for work was $100 per sq. yard to install pavement on an already graded subase.  That is $1.75 million per mile for a 30 ft. wide roadway.  Add in aggregate and grading, and you get the price I previously noted.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 19:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow. Looks like Andrew might have directed that ad. The YouTube comments speak volumes. FAIL.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Looks like Andrew might have directed that ad. The YouTube comments speak volumes. FAIL.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Brough</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=6834&#038;cpage=1#comment-306516</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Brough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 14:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dan.
&quot;the NTSB found the plane could not have returned in their official report.&quot;
Read the report, Dan. It was only after a 35-second delay that a return was unsuccessful. When the turn was made promptly, ALL sims returned safe and sound.

&quot;you are one amazing dude to be able to pick out a flock of geese at three miles against an urban background in your scan. Superman, surely.&quot;

There was no &#039;urban background&#039;. They were below and heading upwards on a northwest heading. This was an unusually large flock at 12 o&#039;clock and high and sticking out against a clean background like a sore thumb. Easy pickins, and yes, at 3 miles - provided, of course, you&#039;re looking. Those guys weren&#039;t.

&quot;If there were more pilots like you, weâ€™d never have bird strikes, surely.&quot;
Sarcasm aside, Dan, most bird strikes are small birds at low altitudes - typically on liftoff - and are not preventable. This particular strike occurred at altitude and involved large birds flying in a known migratory flyway. It was preventable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan.<br />
&#8220;the NTSB found the plane could not have returned in their official report.&#8221;<br />
Read the report, Dan. It was only after a 35-second delay that a return was unsuccessful. When the turn was made promptly, ALL sims returned safe and sound.</p>
<p>&#8220;you are one amazing dude to be able to pick out a flock of geese at three miles against an urban background in your scan. Superman, surely.&#8221;</p>
<p>There was no &#8216;urban background&#8217;. They were below and heading upwards on a northwest heading. This was an unusually large flock at 12 o&#8217;clock and high and sticking out against a clean background like a sore thumb. Easy pickins, and yes, at 3 miles &#8211; provided, of course, you&#8217;re looking. Those guys weren&#8217;t.</p>
<p>&#8220;If there were more pilots like you, weâ€™d never have bird strikes, surely.&#8221;<br />
Sarcasm aside, Dan, most bird strikes are small birds at low altitudes &#8211; typically on liftoff &#8211; and are not preventable. This particular strike occurred at altitude and involved large birds flying in a known migratory flyway. It was preventable.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 10:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First, the NTSB found the plane could not have returned in their official report. 

Second, you are one amazing dude to be able to pick out a flock of geese at three miles against an urban background in your scan. Superman, surely. If there were more pilots like you, we&#039;d never have bird strikes, surely.

Thank you ever so much for sharing your concerns and your transport solutions!!!

DS]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, the NTSB found the plane could not have returned in their official report. </p>
<p>Second, you are one amazing dude to be able to pick out a flock of geese at three miles against an urban background in your scan. Superman, surely. If there were more pilots like you, we&#8217;d never have bird strikes, surely.</p>
<p>Thank you ever so much for sharing your concerns and your transport solutions!!!</p>
<p>DS</p>
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		<title>By: Iced Borscht</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=6834&#038;cpage=1#comment-306432</link>
		<dc:creator>Iced Borscht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 05:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m curious to see Highwayman&#039;s take on this. Hopefully he&#039;ll chime in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious to see Highwayman&#8217;s take on this. Hopefully he&#8217;ll chime in.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy Teal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy Teal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 04:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We don&#039;t have to imagine what the political ads opposing driverless cars would look like.  They have already begun!

http://youtu.be/NUuBXCEWOhc]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t have to imagine what the political ads opposing driverless cars would look like.  They have already begun!</p>
<p><a href="http://youtu.be/NUuBXCEWOhc" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/NUuBXCEWOhc</a></p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 01:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andrew, why do you insist in inventing statistics? You need to start citing your sources and providing evidence rather than making up stuff.

A quick search of Google revealed these tidbits:

&quot;Generally speaking, asphalt paving costs approximately $280,000 per mile, but can vary widely depending on the current asphalt price, road width and asphalt thickness.&quot; 

&quot;An asphalt overlay can range anywhere from $95,000 to $130,000 per mile depending on the width of the road and cost of the asphalt.&quot;

It&#039;s a bit more in Sacramento, of course: &quot;For well-maintained roads, the pavement rehabilitation cycle, meaning an asphalt overlay, comes due in 15 years for arterials and 30 years for local streets, costing $300,000-$400,000 per mile.&quot;

You&#039;re way off with this $2.5M figure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew, why do you insist in inventing statistics? You need to start citing your sources and providing evidence rather than making up stuff.</p>
<p>A quick search of Google revealed these tidbits:</p>
<p>&#8220;Generally speaking, asphalt paving costs approximately $280,000 per mile, but can vary widely depending on the current asphalt price, road width and asphalt thickness.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;An asphalt overlay can range anywhere from $95,000 to $130,000 per mile depending on the width of the road and cost of the asphalt.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a bit more in Sacramento, of course: &#8220;For well-maintained roads, the pavement rehabilitation cycle, meaning an asphalt overlay, comes due in 15 years for arterials and 30 years for local streets, costing $300,000-$400,000 per mile.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re way off with this $2.5M figure.</p>
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