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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=6886&#038;cpage=1#comment-310772</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Closing the gold window had to do with foreign trade balances and especially oil imports and a desire to staunch bullion outflows, and not directly budget deficits and inflation.  Price inflation from 1966 to 1972 was no worse on an annual basis than from 1982 to 1992, when it was widely thought to be under control.  Gold was used by America to settle foreign accounts, and all major currencies were forcibly linked to the Dollar at stable exchange rates.  Inflation did not go wild until February of 1973 (at the end of Nixon&#039;s wage and price controls), which is also right when the Smithsonian system of fixed exchange rates was coming to an end, and this was because of the revaluation of the dollar internationally from its price being steadily fixed for 40 years.

People should remember that in aggregate, the budget deficit - the current account deficit = personal savings, and that price inflation results from net new money being created through budget deficits in excess of economic and population growth so that more money per capita is chasing the same amount of good per capita.

If we assume people want to save a fixed ratio amount of income every year, a rising demand for imports, in the case of the US in the late 1960&#039;s/early 1970&#039;s for exponentially more foreign oil, necessarily drives a higher budget deficit to accomodate the change, and the excesive budget deficit causes inflation which devalues the real value of the dollar.  With a foreign trade system where the balance of payments was guaranteed in gold, which is limited in quantity, this situation was untenable, and exacerbated by the falling real value of the dollar.  If you can take $35 and get $70 in gold, you obviously take the gold.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Closing the gold window had to do with foreign trade balances and especially oil imports and a desire to staunch bullion outflows, and not directly budget deficits and inflation.  Price inflation from 1966 to 1972 was no worse on an annual basis than from 1982 to 1992, when it was widely thought to be under control.  Gold was used by America to settle foreign accounts, and all major currencies were forcibly linked to the Dollar at stable exchange rates.  Inflation did not go wild until February of 1973 (at the end of Nixon&#8217;s wage and price controls), which is also right when the Smithsonian system of fixed exchange rates was coming to an end, and this was because of the revaluation of the dollar internationally from its price being steadily fixed for 40 years.</p>
<p>People should remember that in aggregate, the budget deficit &#8211; the current account deficit = personal savings, and that price inflation results from net new money being created through budget deficits in excess of economic and population growth so that more money per capita is chasing the same amount of good per capita.</p>
<p>If we assume people want to save a fixed ratio amount of income every year, a rising demand for imports, in the case of the US in the late 1960&#8242;s/early 1970&#8242;s for exponentially more foreign oil, necessarily drives a higher budget deficit to accomodate the change, and the excesive budget deficit causes inflation which devalues the real value of the dollar.  With a foreign trade system where the balance of payments was guaranteed in gold, which is limited in quantity, this situation was untenable, and exacerbated by the falling real value of the dollar.  If you can take $35 and get $70 in gold, you obviously take the gold.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=6886&#038;cpage=1#comment-310765</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 15:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If I were 17, I would still do what I do as a college graduate civil engineer.  Its what I wanted to do my whole life from when I was very little, I&#039;m very happy doing it and seeing things built for the benefit of the country, companies, and people, and they pay me well enough for me to have relatively few complaints.  I&#039;m sure I could earn more in Wall St. finance to which some tried to recruit me at the end of college, but I prefer what I do and the life it gives me with my family.

I wish others were as fortunate to find something they loved at which they could make a good living.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I were 17, I would still do what I do as a college graduate civil engineer.  Its what I wanted to do my whole life from when I was very little, I&#8217;m very happy doing it and seeing things built for the benefit of the country, companies, and people, and they pay me well enough for me to have relatively few complaints.  I&#8217;m sure I could earn more in Wall St. finance to which some tried to recruit me at the end of college, but I prefer what I do and the life it gives me with my family.</p>
<p>I wish others were as fortunate to find something they loved at which they could make a good living.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=6886&#038;cpage=1#comment-310763</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 15:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We weren&#039;t on a real gold standard since 1933.

Nixon simply prevented the emptying of the American gold reserves by the French and Arabs.

The real transformational economic event of the 1970&#039;s was the loss of American pricing power over oil and energy prices as swing oil supplier status changed from the Texas Railroad Commission to Saudi Aramco.  However, events in the 1970-1973 period do not account for the disconnect in wages vs. productivity which occurred after 1981.  Those things are much more clearly linked to our new tax code and new economic system brought in by Reagan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We weren&#8217;t on a real gold standard since 1933.</p>
<p>Nixon simply prevented the emptying of the American gold reserves by the French and Arabs.</p>
<p>The real transformational economic event of the 1970&#8242;s was the loss of American pricing power over oil and energy prices as swing oil supplier status changed from the Texas Railroad Commission to Saudi Aramco.  However, events in the 1970-1973 period do not account for the disconnect in wages vs. productivity which occurred after 1981.  Those things are much more clearly linked to our new tax code and new economic system brought in by Reagan.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=6886&#038;cpage=1#comment-310759</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 15:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MJ:

&lt;i&gt;They were never â€œfreeâ€. They are all part of your compensation.&lt;/i&gt;

They were free to me, and the cost to the company is obviously equal whether they pay them directly or pay them to me first unless the company deals unfairly by not compensating the employee for the higher costs being passed on.  And as the costs (and risks) have been gradually shifted to me without compensation, my real income declines until I get actual raise.  If I get a 3% annual cost of living adjustment, but half the bump every year is eaten up by higher health insurance copays, my standard of living decreases by the year and I have to cut back on consumption, even as I am supposedly becoming higher &quot;paid&quot;.

Look at a real example.  Some time ago, I used to earn $31.76 per hour, had $308 in biweekly medical and retirement deductions, and paid $361 biweekly to FICA and local taxes, and over 4 years got 3% increases so that now I am earning $35.74 per hour.  But at the same time, lets say the company asks for dramatically more in health insurance copays that it used to cover, so that I am now paying $453 in medical and retirement, and $405 in FICA and local taxes.  Although my biweekly pay is theoretically up $320, $190 of that has been swallowed by increased benefit costs and resulting higher taxes on higher pay.  My real net pay has gone up 5%, but the general cost of living is up 12.5% meaning I am worse off.  The company has saved money and increased its profits by jamming what were its previous overhead costs down on me and making me cover it by cost of living adjustments, because they were billing me out under contracts that covered my pay times the overhead + 10% profit and accounting for 3% annual pay increases.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MJ:</p>
<p><i>They were never â€œfreeâ€. They are all part of your compensation.</i></p>
<p>They were free to me, and the cost to the company is obviously equal whether they pay them directly or pay them to me first unless the company deals unfairly by not compensating the employee for the higher costs being passed on.  And as the costs (and risks) have been gradually shifted to me without compensation, my real income declines until I get actual raise.  If I get a 3% annual cost of living adjustment, but half the bump every year is eaten up by higher health insurance copays, my standard of living decreases by the year and I have to cut back on consumption, even as I am supposedly becoming higher &#8220;paid&#8221;.</p>
<p>Look at a real example.  Some time ago, I used to earn $31.76 per hour, had $308 in biweekly medical and retirement deductions, and paid $361 biweekly to FICA and local taxes, and over 4 years got 3% increases so that now I am earning $35.74 per hour.  But at the same time, lets say the company asks for dramatically more in health insurance copays that it used to cover, so that I am now paying $453 in medical and retirement, and $405 in FICA and local taxes.  Although my biweekly pay is theoretically up $320, $190 of that has been swallowed by increased benefit costs and resulting higher taxes on higher pay.  My real net pay has gone up 5%, but the general cost of living is up 12.5% meaning I am worse off.  The company has saved money and increased its profits by jamming what were its previous overhead costs down on me and making me cover it by cost of living adjustments, because they were billing me out under contracts that covered my pay times the overhead + 10% profit and accounting for 3% annual pay increases.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=6886&#038;cpage=1#comment-310750</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 15:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Labor is not the major cost in most manufacturing, and high wages typically more than offset higher costs of goods.  Frequently once offshored, other costs increase dramatically such as shipping and logisitics, foreign exchange accounting, and internal management coordination of the more complex and far-flung enterprise, and suck up much of the savings in low wages.

The real reason for offshoring is that modern management is amoral and lacks any sense of community with its workers or the places in which it operates, and sees no guiding value in operating an enterprise beyond putting a few more dollars in its own pockets through maximal extraction of operating income.  Modern management is also unthinking, and prone to fads put out by the ivory tower crowd in business schools.  If bringing in 100 illegal Mexicans or shipping a factory to some third world despotate results in a 5% bump in profit from slightly lower operating costs, the company does it and the previous American workers are let go without a heartbeat of hesitation as to their interests or future welfare.

We have lost sight of the economy being for the purpose of serving humanity and human need and have changed it instead to serve the purpose of simply piling up wealth without reason or purpose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Labor is not the major cost in most manufacturing, and high wages typically more than offset higher costs of goods.  Frequently once offshored, other costs increase dramatically such as shipping and logisitics, foreign exchange accounting, and internal management coordination of the more complex and far-flung enterprise, and suck up much of the savings in low wages.</p>
<p>The real reason for offshoring is that modern management is amoral and lacks any sense of community with its workers or the places in which it operates, and sees no guiding value in operating an enterprise beyond putting a few more dollars in its own pockets through maximal extraction of operating income.  Modern management is also unthinking, and prone to fads put out by the ivory tower crowd in business schools.  If bringing in 100 illegal Mexicans or shipping a factory to some third world despotate results in a 5% bump in profit from slightly lower operating costs, the company does it and the previous American workers are let go without a heartbeat of hesitation as to their interests or future welfare.</p>
<p>We have lost sight of the economy being for the purpose of serving humanity and human need and have changed it instead to serve the purpose of simply piling up wealth without reason or purpose.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=6886&#038;cpage=1#comment-310747</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 15:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Corporations have NO constitutional or natural rights.  The Constitution was enacted by humans to guarantee natural rights bequeathed to humanity by the Creator, for &quot;ourselves and our posterity&quot;, not &quot;ourselves and our legal entities&quot;.  Humans possess rights, corporations possess powers and privileges conferred by human made law since they are creatures of humanity, and not God.

That conservatives should end up on the wrong end of this proposition shows how far so-called conservatives of today have strayed from their intellectual moorings 225 years ago.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corporations have NO constitutional or natural rights.  The Constitution was enacted by humans to guarantee natural rights bequeathed to humanity by the Creator, for &#8220;ourselves and our posterity&#8221;, not &#8220;ourselves and our legal entities&#8221;.  Humans possess rights, corporations possess powers and privileges conferred by human made law since they are creatures of humanity, and not God.</p>
<p>That conservatives should end up on the wrong end of this proposition shows how far so-called conservatives of today have strayed from their intellectual moorings 225 years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: C. P. Zilliacus</title>
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		<dc:creator>C. P. Zilliacus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 03:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Though Sweden, which did not actively participate in World War II had some of the same advantages (though on a smaller scale), and even though they went through some tough times in the 1970&#039;s through the early 1990&#039;s, their economy seems to be doing better than ours (at least in terms of impacts on the middle class).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though Sweden, which did not actively participate in World War II had some of the same advantages (though on a smaller scale), and even though they went through some tough times in the 1970&#8242;s through the early 1990&#8242;s, their economy seems to be doing better than ours (at least in terms of impacts on the middle class).</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 01:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[IS THERE AN ECHO IN HERE? is there an echo in here?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IS THERE AN ECHO IN HERE? is there an echo in here?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 00:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My brother was 17 in the late 70s and manged to score a computer job at the right place at the right time without a college degree. Now he&#039;s 50 and earning well over 100k as an IT professional WITHOUT a college degree. Meanwhile, I have a master&#039;s degree and make less than half he does. If I were 17 again, which would have been in the late 80s, I would have gotten a computer science degree and ridden the wave to prosperity. Public schools don&#039;t prepare students for the job market. The churn out obsolete products.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My brother was 17 in the late 70s and manged to score a computer job at the right place at the right time without a college degree. Now he&#8217;s 50 and earning well over 100k as an IT professional WITHOUT a college degree. Meanwhile, I have a master&#8217;s degree and make less than half he does. If I were 17 again, which would have been in the late 80s, I would have gotten a computer science degree and ridden the wave to prosperity. Public schools don&#8217;t prepare students for the job market. The churn out obsolete products.</p>
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		<title>By: Craigh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 23:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Why did wages stagnate after 1970?&lt;/i&gt;

The answer lies in economics.  The Fed started inflating during the LBJ administration to pay for Viet Nam and Nixon closed the gold window in &#039;71.  Massive inflation has ensued.  The rich benefit from inflation -- the middle class, not so much.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Why did wages stagnate after 1970?</i></p>
<p>The answer lies in economics.  The Fed started inflating during the LBJ administration to pay for Viet Nam and Nixon closed the gold window in &#8217;71.  Massive inflation has ensued.  The rich benefit from inflation &#8212; the middle class, not so much.</p>
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