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		<title>By: the highwayman</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=6912&#038;cpage=1#comment-315511</link>
		<dc:creator>the highwayman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 06:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Governance in the private sector is corrupt too!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Governance in the private sector is corrupt too!</p>
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		<title>By: the highwayman</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=6912&#038;cpage=1#comment-315509</link>
		<dc:creator>the highwayman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 06:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Light rail has much lower operating costs than buses in high traffic areas. So in reality light rail has produced more revenue for schools, police and fire departments.

As much as you want Karlock, you get can&#039;t get some thing for nothing or keep cheating others with out things eventually breaking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Light rail has much lower operating costs than buses in high traffic areas. So in reality light rail has produced more revenue for schools, police and fire departments.</p>
<p>As much as you want Karlock, you get can&#8217;t get some thing for nothing or keep cheating others with out things eventually breaking.</p>
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		<title>By: the highwayman</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=6912&#038;cpage=1#comment-314365</link>
		<dc:creator>the highwayman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 01:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I acknowledge that you want to drive and that&#039;s fine.  

Though why won&#039;t you acknowledge that there are people that don&#039;t want to drive?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I acknowledge that you want to drive and that&#8217;s fine.  </p>
<p>Though why won&#8217;t you acknowledge that there are people that don&#8217;t want to drive?</p>
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		<title>By: the highwayman</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=6912&#038;cpage=1#comment-313498</link>
		<dc:creator>the highwayman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 23:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frank; Many roads exist on a profit or loss basis. They often show up as losses on city governmentsâ€˜ profit/loss statements.

THWM: Then you site revenues from property taxes? :S

Come on Frank take a good look at the road in front of your home, it&#039;s not a business. 

A ghost town would be a place where roads are abandoned, though that&#039;s an extreme situation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank; Many roads exist on a profit or loss basis. They often show up as losses on city governmentsâ€˜ profit/loss statements.</p>
<p>THWM: Then you site revenues from property taxes? :S</p>
<p>Come on Frank take a good look at the road in front of your home, it&#8217;s not a business. </p>
<p>A ghost town would be a place where roads are abandoned, though that&#8217;s an extreme situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=6912&#038;cpage=1#comment-312634</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 16:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Roads donâ€™t exist on a profit or loss basis.&quot;

&lt;i&gt;Argumentum ad nauseam or argument from repetition or argumentum ad infinitum is an argument made repeatedly (possibly by different people) until nobody cares to discuss it any more. This may sometimes, but not always, be a form of proof by assertion.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;b&gt;Many roads exist on a profit or loss basis. They often show up as losses on &lt;a href=&quot;http://graftontownshipsupervisor.us/uploads/packets/dec/Road-District-Profit-Loss-Budget-v-Actual-Fiscal-Year-to-Date.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;city governments&lt;/a&gt;&#039; profit/loss statements. 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/05/us/private-toll-road-across-maine-is-proposed.html?pagewanted=all&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Some roads&lt;/a&gt; won&#039;t be constructed unless the proposal passes a &quot;financial feasibility study&quot; to determine whether or not it will &quot;profitable for a private company to operate&quot;. 

There are even &lt;a&gt;road corporations&lt;/a&gt; that operate on a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hawaiianacresroads.org/harc-profit-loss/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;profit and loss basis&lt;/a&gt;.

Roads around the world, including roads in China, exist on a profit and loss basis:

&lt;blockquote&gt;â€œHeading into 2012, our priorities are to ensure that we manage our business well, grow the toll road business and its profitability and increase shareholder value. At the same time, we continue to lookout for quality toll road projects to enlarge our toll road portfolio,â€ Mr Dong added.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

You can now stop repeating this assertion over and over and over. Saying it a million times won&#039;t make it so.

You NEVER link to any evidence (we still remember your failed attempts to use HTML tags) and you repeat the same gibberish day in and out. 

It is time to STEP AWAY FROM THE KEYBOARD highwayman.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Roads donâ€™t exist on a profit or loss basis.&#8221;</p>
<p><i>Argumentum ad nauseam or argument from repetition or argumentum ad infinitum is an argument made repeatedly (possibly by different people) until nobody cares to discuss it any more. This may sometimes, but not always, be a form of proof by assertion.</i></p>
<p><b>Many roads exist on a profit or loss basis. They often show up as losses on <a href="http://graftontownshipsupervisor.us/uploads/packets/dec/Road-District-Profit-Loss-Budget-v-Actual-Fiscal-Year-to-Date.pdf" rel="nofollow">city governments</a>&#8216; profit/loss statements. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/05/us/private-toll-road-across-maine-is-proposed.html?pagewanted=all" rel="nofollow">Some roads</a> won&#8217;t be constructed unless the proposal passes a &#8220;financial feasibility study&#8221; to determine whether or not it will &#8220;profitable for a private company to operate&#8221;. </p>
<p>There are even <a>road corporations</a> that operate on a <a href="http://www.hawaiianacresroads.org/harc-profit-loss/" rel="nofollow">profit and loss basis</a>.</p>
<p>Roads around the world, including roads in China, exist on a profit and loss basis:</p>
<blockquote><p>â€œHeading into 2012, our priorities are to ensure that we manage our business well, grow the toll road business and its profitability and increase shareholder value. At the same time, we continue to lookout for quality toll road projects to enlarge our toll road portfolio,â€ Mr Dong added.</p></blockquote>
<p></b></p>
<p>You can now stop repeating this assertion over and over and over. Saying it a million times won&#8217;t make it so.</p>
<p>You NEVER link to any evidence (we still remember your failed attempts to use HTML tags) and you repeat the same gibberish day in and out. </p>
<p>It is time to STEP AWAY FROM THE KEYBOARD highwayman.</p>
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		<title>By: the highwayman</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=6912&#038;cpage=1#comment-312486</link>
		<dc:creator>the highwayman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 05:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Roads don&#039;t exist on a profit or loss basis. 

So you have absolutely nothing to complain about!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roads don&#8217;t exist on a profit or loss basis. </p>
<p>So you have absolutely nothing to complain about!</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 23:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps you didn&#039;t read this line, msetty, so it bears repeating: If all you have are attacks, both of you now please shut the %uÂ©k up.

I&#039;m tired of your mischaracterizations (I&#039;m not &quot;right-wing&quot;) and your attacks. I&#039;m tired of YEARS of the highwayman persona saying the same stuff over and over and over. Fact is you and Dan and highwayman have stifled the discussion here with your repeated personal attacks, appeals to ridicule, and in the highwayman&#039;s case, non-sequiturs and libelous accusations against The Antiplanner, whom I respect.

Criticism is great. All you offer are profanity-laced, emotion-based attacks. 

/ignore]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps you didn&#8217;t read this line, msetty, so it bears repeating: If all you have are attacks, both of you now please shut the %uÂ©k up.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m tired of your mischaracterizations (I&#8217;m not &#8220;right-wing&#8221;) and your attacks. I&#8217;m tired of YEARS of the highwayman persona saying the same stuff over and over and over. Fact is you and Dan and highwayman have stifled the discussion here with your repeated personal attacks, appeals to ridicule, and in the highwayman&#8217;s case, non-sequiturs and libelous accusations against The Antiplanner, whom I respect.</p>
<p>Criticism is great. All you offer are profanity-laced, emotion-based attacks. </p>
<p>/ignore</p>
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		<title>By: msetty</title>
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		<dc:creator>msetty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 20:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frank:
&lt;i&gt;I make reasoned contributions here.&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s a good one. I&#039;d say you&#039;re logic-challenged.

&lt;i&gt;Highwayman is a troll-slash-chatbot who spews the same inanities and profanities day after day.&lt;/i&gt;

Then there&#039;s this drivel from Karlock, who apparently doesn&#039;t understand why anyone would disagree with him despite his reams of (usually out of context) statistics (almost as bad as Cox in this department):


&lt;i&gt;Hey Highwayman,
How much are you getting paid by the transit money bags to post your drivel?&lt;/i&gt;

No, he varies his schtick somewhat, sometimes getting a bit profane at times...I do understand his frustrations.

Gee, we WISH! The only one paid here for his advocacy work is Randal, though not specifically to put out this blog, at least I don&#039;t think so.

BTW, Frank, Highwayman was referring to The Antiplanner NOT you. Looks like a bit of rather typical right-wing paranoid projection to me.

Of course Highwayman is wrong that CATO, Randal&#039;s main source of $$, is currently getting money from the Koch brothers, given their current hostile takeover attempt of that &quot;scholarly&quot; institution. 

Of course, on transportation the Koch brothers generally agree with CATO and Randal and buy the best &quot;research&quot; supporting their agenda that money can buy but would never pass peer review nor a disemboweling by critics such as myself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank:<br />
<i>I make reasoned contributions here.</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s a good one. I&#8217;d say you&#8217;re logic-challenged.</p>
<p><i>Highwayman is a troll-slash-chatbot who spews the same inanities and profanities day after day.</i></p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s this drivel from Karlock, who apparently doesn&#8217;t understand why anyone would disagree with him despite his reams of (usually out of context) statistics (almost as bad as Cox in this department):</p>
<p><i>Hey Highwayman,<br />
How much are you getting paid by the transit money bags to post your drivel?</i></p>
<p>No, he varies his schtick somewhat, sometimes getting a bit profane at times&#8230;I do understand his frustrations.</p>
<p>Gee, we WISH! The only one paid here for his advocacy work is Randal, though not specifically to put out this blog, at least I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
<p>BTW, Frank, Highwayman was referring to The Antiplanner NOT you. Looks like a bit of rather typical right-wing paranoid projection to me.</p>
<p>Of course Highwayman is wrong that CATO, Randal&#8217;s main source of $$, is currently getting money from the Koch brothers, given their current hostile takeover attempt of that &#8220;scholarly&#8221; institution. </p>
<p>Of course, on transportation the Koch brothers generally agree with CATO and Randal and buy the best &#8220;research&#8221; supporting their agenda that money can buy but would never pass peer review nor a disemboweling by critics such as myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=6912&#038;cpage=1#comment-312334</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just responding in kind, msetty, using the very same words highwayman used, in fact. (Here&#039;s the highwayman&#039;s original prhrasing: &quot;getting $50k+ a year from the Koch brothers sitting on my ass whacking off all day&quot;.) I make reasoned contributions here. Highwayman is a troll-slash-chatbot who spews the same inanities and profanities day after day. 

Note: I have NEVER called you any names. Not sure why you feel the need when interacting with me to unleash unprovoked strings of name calling, ad hominem attacks, and appeals to ridicule.  I don&#039;t reply in anger here; you apparently have underling anger issues.

If all you have are attacks, both of you now please shut the %uÂ©k up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just responding in kind, msetty, using the very same words highwayman used, in fact. (Here&#8217;s the highwayman&#8217;s original prhrasing: &#8220;getting $50k+ a year from the Koch brothers sitting on my ass whacking off all day&#8221;.) I make reasoned contributions here. Highwayman is a troll-slash-chatbot who spews the same inanities and profanities day after day. </p>
<p>Note: I have NEVER called you any names. Not sure why you feel the need when interacting with me to unleash unprovoked strings of name calling, ad hominem attacks, and appeals to ridicule.  I don&#8217;t reply in anger here; you apparently have underling anger issues.</p>
<p>If all you have are attacks, both of you now please shut the %uÂ©k up.</p>
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		<title>By: msetty</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=6912&#038;cpage=1#comment-312193</link>
		<dc:creator>msetty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 05:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frank speweth:
&lt;i&gt;Thatâ€™a revelation. Canâ€™t believe anyone would hire such a libelous moron. I figured you were the one sitting on his ass whacking off all day.&lt;/i&gt;

My, my, Frank, you sure are rude and crude today. I thought you regularly brainfarted, but I see your mind is much dirtier than that.

For the record, &lt;i&gt;the highwayman&lt;/i&gt; saves his bile and &quot;slander&quot; just for the like of you, that snot-nosed punk Metrosucks and a few select others.

Unlike some of the regular bile that shows up from your and your fellow twits&#039; environs, I seriously doubt &lt;i&gt;the highwayman&lt;/i&gt; sees much in his work (whatever that may be) that warrants the same level of vitriol that you and your &quot;fellow travelers&quot; attract.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank speweth:<br />
<i>Thatâ€™a revelation. Canâ€™t believe anyone would hire such a libelous moron. I figured you were the one sitting on his ass whacking off all day.</i></p>
<p>My, my, Frank, you sure are rude and crude today. I thought you regularly brainfarted, but I see your mind is much dirtier than that.</p>
<p>For the record, <i>the highwayman</i> saves his bile and &#8220;slander&#8221; just for the like of you, that snot-nosed punk Metrosucks and a few select others.</p>
<p>Unlike some of the regular bile that shows up from your and your fellow twits&#8217; environs, I seriously doubt <i>the highwayman</i> sees much in his work (whatever that may be) that warrants the same level of vitriol that you and your &#8220;fellow travelers&#8221; attract.</p>
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