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		<title>By: redline</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=7101&#038;cpage=1#comment-327588</link>
		<dc:creator>redline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2012 01:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, Danny - roll your eyes all you want. You make up stuff to insult others, then get all upset when they stuff it right back at you. Gee, too bad. Grow up, then.

I&#039;m not &quot;parroting&quot; anything: I read a lot of news. Ever heard of Solyndra or Vestas or at least 50 other similar failures? Did you bother to check the Jalopnik link on the Fiskers? No? Why does that not surprise anyone? You&#039;d rather just make stuff up and hope that something sticks. 

And you exhibit humorous levels of suckage at even that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Danny &#8211; roll your eyes all you want. You make up stuff to insult others, then get all upset when they stuff it right back at you. Gee, too bad. Grow up, then.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not &#8220;parroting&#8221; anything: I read a lot of news. Ever heard of Solyndra or Vestas or at least 50 other similar failures? Did you bother to check the Jalopnik link on the Fiskers? No? Why does that not surprise anyone? You&#8217;d rather just make stuff up and hope that something sticks. </p>
<p>And you exhibit humorous levels of suckage at even that.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=7101&#038;cpage=1#comment-327274</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 21:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;eye roll&lt;/i&gt;

Are you claiming you are not parroting RNC-Rove-Koch-Rmoney lies about so many green energy companies failing? Are you also trying to distract away from that false claim by making shhh...tuff up about me?

&lt;i&gt;Do&lt;/i&gt; help us understand why you are sad and lashing out after I point out &lt;i&gt;th&#039; lies fer jeebus&lt;/i&gt;.

DS]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>eye roll</i></p>
<p>Are you claiming you are not parroting RNC-Rove-Koch-Rmoney lies about so many green energy companies failing? Are you also trying to distract away from that false claim by making shhh&#8230;tuff up about me?</p>
<p><i>Do</i> help us understand why you are sad and lashing out after I point out <i>th&#8217; lies fer jeebus</i>.</p>
<p>DS</p>
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		<title>By: The Antiplanner</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=7101&#038;cpage=1#comment-327270</link>
		<dc:creator>The Antiplanner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 20:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bloomberg&#039;s plan was for a fixed toll on all bridges. I would have a variable toll that might be lower on some bridges than others. Bloomberg&#039;s plan would lead to a one-time reduction in traffic but no long-term solution to congestion. Variable tolls could relieve congestion at all times,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bloomberg&#8217;s plan was for a fixed toll on all bridges. I would have a variable toll that might be lower on some bridges than others. Bloomberg&#8217;s plan would lead to a one-time reduction in traffic but no long-term solution to congestion. Variable tolls could relieve congestion at all times,</p>
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		<title>By: redline</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=7101&#038;cpage=1#comment-327268</link>
		<dc:creator>redline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 20:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Go talk to the economists, then.

What I find curious is that Mayor Doomberg and his fellow citizens took few, if any, preventive measures, such as blockading entrances to the transit tunnels. Apparently, they preferred to sit on their hands. 

One of the few achievements associated with the reign of Vera Katz in Portland involved her order, in the days prior to arrival of the 1996 flood, for reinforcement and extension of the seawall at Portland&#039;s waterfront. Hundreds of volunteers showed up to assist city crews in making it happen. It brought a diverse range of citizens together (and the seawall was not breached).

By contrast, mayor Doomberg invited large-scale infrastructure damage simply by taking no such steps to secure the tunnels. The barriers don&#039;t have to be pretty - just relatively effective - but he CHOSE to ignore the issues. Now, he wants billions in bail-out money; much of which would be unneeded if not for his incompetence. But, as noted, it&#039;s a huge shot in the arm for the construction industry. Besides, Doomberg was likely preoccupied with preparations for the NYC marathon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go talk to the economists, then.</p>
<p>What I find curious is that Mayor Doomberg and his fellow citizens took few, if any, preventive measures, such as blockading entrances to the transit tunnels. Apparently, they preferred to sit on their hands. </p>
<p>One of the few achievements associated with the reign of Vera Katz in Portland involved her order, in the days prior to arrival of the 1996 flood, for reinforcement and extension of the seawall at Portland&#8217;s waterfront. Hundreds of volunteers showed up to assist city crews in making it happen. It brought a diverse range of citizens together (and the seawall was not breached).</p>
<p>By contrast, mayor Doomberg invited large-scale infrastructure damage simply by taking no such steps to secure the tunnels. The barriers don&#8217;t have to be pretty &#8211; just relatively effective &#8211; but he CHOSE to ignore the issues. Now, he wants billions in bail-out money; much of which would be unneeded if not for his incompetence. But, as noted, it&#8217;s a huge shot in the arm for the construction industry. Besides, Doomberg was likely preoccupied with preparations for the NYC marathon.</p>
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		<title>By: redline</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=7101&#038;cpage=1#comment-327264</link>
		<dc:creator>redline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 20:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You, apparently (like so many Leftists) are both humor-impaired and at an abject loss for words, so you resort to all you got: drool.

Pretty pathetic display there, Dan - though the best that can be expected from the developmentally disabled.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You, apparently (like so many Leftists) are both humor-impaired and at an abject loss for words, so you resort to all you got: drool.</p>
<p>Pretty pathetic display there, Dan &#8211; though the best that can be expected from the developmentally disabled.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 19:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My point is very clear and quite simple: there is a ton of reportage out in the world now that everyone has heard, and we all know by now that the traffic is a nightmare now without the subway.

DS]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My point is very clear and quite simple: there is a ton of reportage out in the world now that everyone has heard, and we all know by now that the traffic is a nightmare now without the subway.</p>
<p>DS</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=7101&#038;cpage=1#comment-327236</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 18:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed CPZ. There is a burgeoning flood defense &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.environmental-expert.com/water-wastewater/water-resources/companies/keyword-flood-barriers-532&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;industry&lt;/a&gt; in other places. Venice might be the most famous in countries that realize seas are rising and will continue to rise. 

DS]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed CPZ. There is a burgeoning flood defense <a href="http://www.environmental-expert.com/water-wastewater/water-resources/companies/keyword-flood-barriers-532" rel="nofollow">industry</a> in other places. Venice might be the most famous in countries that realize seas are rising and will continue to rise. </p>
<p>DS</p>
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		<title>By: MJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 18:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Uh, Manhattan is typically gridlocked even when when transit is running and no major storms are expected.  Your point?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, Manhattan is typically gridlocked even when when transit is running and no major storms are expected.  Your point?</p>
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		<title>By: C. P. Zilliacus</title>
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		<dc:creator>C. P. Zilliacus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 17:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is no technical reason that a flood barrier could not be built, though it would be expensive (and probably extra-expensive in New York state and especially New York City, given the reality of union power there).  

Great Britain built such a barrier across the Thames Estuary to protect London (details &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/homeandleisure/floods/38353.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;), and not so far away in the Netherlands, the &lt;a Href=&quot;http://www.deltawerken.com/The-Oosterschelde-storm-surge-barrier/324.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Oosterscheldekering&lt;/a&gt; was built to protect the country from the waters of the North Sea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no technical reason that a flood barrier could not be built, though it would be expensive (and probably extra-expensive in New York state and especially New York City, given the reality of union power there).  </p>
<p>Great Britain built such a barrier across the Thames Estuary to protect London (details <a href="http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/homeandleisure/floods/38353.aspx" rel="nofollow">here</a>), and not so far away in the Netherlands, the <a Href="http://www.deltawerken.com/The-Oosterschelde-storm-surge-barrier/324.html" rel="nofollow">Oosterscheldekering</a> was built to protect the country from the waters of the North Sea.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=7101&#038;cpage=1#comment-327219</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 16:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These discussions will be much more frequent in the near future. Most of the high-income cities on the planet are near water, not to mention what are we going to do with the Indian subcontinent-Bangladesh and their rice production, and what just happened in SE Asia this year? Big problems, complicated solutions.

DS]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These discussions will be much more frequent in the near future. Most of the high-income cities on the planet are near water, not to mention what are we going to do with the Indian subcontinent-Bangladesh and their rice production, and what just happened in SE Asia this year? Big problems, complicated solutions.</p>
<p>DS</p>
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