Yep, That’s the Way I Feel

The Antiplanner is not a conservative, so I can hardly be an Obamacon (a conservative who supports Obama). I am not even certain I support Obama. But this article in the San Francisco Chronicle certainly captures how I feel about the current election.

Obama seems pretty fiscally liberal. But, as Cato Institute executive David Boaz says some libertarians are thinking, “Do you think Obama will increase spending by $1 trillion, because that’s what Republicans did over the past two presidential terms. So really, how much worse can he be?”

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Boaz is personally skeptical that Obama will turn out to be a free-marketeer. “The Republicans have left the libertarian baby on the doorstep,” he says, “but Democrats won’t open the door.” But as Matt Welch, editor of Reason magazine says, many people are thinking, “Look, we’re out of ideas, we’re exhausted, it’s not working, we don’t know what our principles are anymore, let’s take one for the team and have a black guy be the president for a while.”

What this article shows is something rarely acknowledged in the mainstream media: the “conservatives” are really a bunch of different groups (as are the “liberals”). So-called conservatives include free-market libertarians, Christian fundamentalists, neoconservatives, paleoconservatives (who are socially conservative but hate America’s foreign policies), and no doubt several more. The only ones who strongly support McCain are the neocons. The rest don’t necessarily support Obama, but McCain is going to have trouble if he is counting on their support.

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9 Responses to Yep, That’s the Way I Feel

  1. aynrandgirl says:

    How much worse? Think “Jimmy Carter”.

  2. JimKarlock says:

    Carter’s energy policy:
    turn out the lights, and put on a coat.

    Thanks
    JK

  3. irandom says:

    Unfortunately, Bush never campaigned as a fiscal conservative, but he did try to cut 140 programs. You want to know what you’re in for, look at what the democrats who have reduced the number of earmarks by 30%, but increased the total dollar amount by 30%. Republicans fall prey to the same special interests that the democrats due when they have no one to fight against like Bill Clinton. I know from all the years of effort that the helium program took to be dismantled that farm subsidies aren’t going away anytime soon. I figure as long as supply side like policies are in place that the growth will hopefully cushion the run away spending.

    I don’t want a democrat or libertarian in the oval office because they will spend the peace dividend to balance the budget and project weakness to the cesspool countries. I honestly wish the UN worked, but they spend all their time condemning Israel and bribing each other with oil to look the other way. Then latch onto every opportunity,like global warming,to get the first worlders to pad their swiss bank accounts. Democrats sound like elementary teachers who say you just need to talk to bullies, while they hoist you by the underwear to the top of the flagpole. If you don’t deal with bullies they fester like a cancer and you will pay for it 10x over. Look at Carter/Reagan/Clinton softballing terrorism, we had something like 10 attacks against us.

    For me the ideal candidate would be a hawk on foreign policy and a libertarian fiscally. They would pass the DOD/Veteran budget and veto everything else. Then go on vacation and let the congressmen and senators argue about $15 million dollar EMX extensions.

  4. Dan says:

    What this article shows is something rarely acknowledged in the mainstream media: the “conservatives” are really a bunch of different groups (as are the “liberals”)

    I think if one sticks to USA Today, this assertion is true. As soon as one steps out of the USAT/Today Show/Good Morning America-type targeting to the fourth-grade level, then you start to see this nuance. Trouble is, corporate media is cr*p so you can’t count on finding nuance.

    DS

  5. johngalt says:

    It might be nice to have a Democrat just to keep the wing-nuts from blaming everything that goes wrong on “the administration”.

  6. Hugh Jardonn says:

    A vote for Obama is a vote for higher taxes, more meddlesome government and a foreign policy that completely ignores the serious threat of Islamofacisim. And, far from being a different kind of politician, we’ve learned in the last month that he’ll say anything to get elected.

  7. Bulbman says:

    McCain is actually a better conservative than Bush. He’s a fiscal conservative and a free trader. It takes guts to preach the virtues of free trade in Ohio, and McCain has done just that.

    Read what McCain and Obama have to say about the government’s role in health care. McCain’s approach is market-oriented, Obama’s is socialistic.

    Obama would be a slave to the public employee unions, especially the Great Satan, the teachers’ unions. McCain has endorsed the idea of more school choice.

  8. Bulbman and others,

    I agree that McCain is more of a fiscal conservative domestically. But the cost of one unnecessary war would cancel out all of the savings from many years of fiscal conservatism. On the issues I work on — urban, transport, public lands — McCain would be better. But foreign policy mistakes can render everything else moot.

  9. Ettinger says:

    AP: “…But foreign policy mistakes can render everything else moot.”

    I do not entirely agree…
    I am not a fan of crusades that attempt to spread capitalism to hopeless countries. Most countries in the world are so far down the road to serfdom that it is virtually impossible to do much about them no matter how many life rafts Neocons try to throw at them. And because war is an inherently collectivist endeavor, every time America engages in one, American society itself takes yet another step down the road to serfdom.

    However it seems to me that it is easier to withdraw from bad foreign policy choices than from bad domestic policy choices. This is because once collectivism establishes itself into a culture it is virtually impossible to go back. The road to serfdom is a one way road. So American wars have come and gone, but collectivist endeavors e.g. mandatory state defined social security, remain.

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