After the dispute in Wisconsin, it is hard to believe that school teachers and Tea Party members would ever agree on anything. But 150 teachers and other school advocates held a protest march in Chicago demanding an end to tax-increment financing (TIF)–something that most Tea Partiers would readily agree to.
The protesters noted that half of the $500 million going into Chicago TIF districts would otherwise go to schools, and they demanded that one TIF district business owner–a Cadillac dealer that received more than $8 million in TIF subsidies–write them a check for $4 million. The business owner asked police to arrest them instead.
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TIF advocates noted that TIF really didn’t cost the school districts anything. Under Illinois law, the schools prepare their budgets and tax rates are set sufficient to fund those budgets. The people TIF hurts are taxpayers who must pay higher rates to keep the schools running since some of the money that would have funded schools is going to subsidize developers instead. So maybe the teachers union and other groups that organized this protest should contact the Illinois Tea Party to gain their support.
The Antiplanner wrote:
After the dispute in Wisconsin, it is hard to believe that school teachers and Tea Party members would ever agree on anything. But 150 teachers and other school advocates held a protest march in Chicago demanding an end to tax-increment financing (TIF)–something that most Tea Partiers would readily agree to.
TIF is bad in large part because it’s government “picking the winners,” and made worse by claims that it costs local and state governments nothing.
I am always suspicious toward any proposal that is advertised as “free” or “no cost.”
RE: TIF. The predicament in Chicago is a perfect example of how a great idea for a specific context is a terrible idea outside of that context. I suppose the Chicago political institution can’t be trusted with TIF. Maybe more stringent standards for how TIF can be used should be developed.
RE: 2 sides coming together… I think that there is a ton of middle ground in the culture wars today. Unfortunately there are few forums that allow for productive debate, nor are there many people who are willing to understand an opponents point of view.
I was engaged in a debate with a self-proclaimed fiscal conservative last week regarding the US debt/deficit, and while we argued at great length about specifics, we both agreed that balancing the budget is impossible without substantial spending cuts and increased tax revenues.
I feel that most (at least 51%) engaged Americans are reasonable people capable of compromise and can engage their ideological opponents in a respectful manner.
Unfortunately the leaders of the various sides, the news outlets that serve as their sounding boards, and the wingnut fringes components currently control the debate, soak up the limelight, and refuse to listen or compromise.
TIF is overused. Tax breaks brokered by multinational corporations are overused. Tax cuts are overused. They all have in common the rich asking pols to make more money. Close these breaks and loophole and our deficit and debt are manageable.
DS
There’s that good old class warfare at work by useful idiot/moron in #3.
Metrosucks,
If I recall correctly, you’re not a fan of TIF. And I can’t imagine you’re a fan of businesses using political influence to receive special advantages from politicians, as this seems outside of free market principles–but this is just my interpretation, and I apologize if I’m putting words in your mouth. So are you simply angry with Dan saying that that this is all the work of the rich, or do you believe that tax breaks/cuts have their value?
I’m not a fan of TIF or political influence peddling, but there we have Dan blaming it all on some vague, unidentified “rich”, who also don’t pay enough in taxes, (we can infer). The “rich” who benefit directly from public largess are the same builders who are in bed with planners like Dan. Why didn’t Dan point that out?
@5: the sockpuppet is just making sh– up to h8 on DS. That is the purpose of the sockpuppet. Nothing more. No need to read anything into the text other than that (and likely a need for a different dosage).
DS
What’s this now? “to hate on DS”??? So now the gibberish producer is talking about himself in third person? Talk about the need for a different dosage!